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Give me a break with this. You are not so thick as to think the two things are remotely comparable.

Good for you. The point is that a lot of Firefox users actively didn't want these sorts of features enabled and pushed on them. That was clear and obvious to anyone paying attention to general reactions to unsolicited AI helper tools, going back decades. For Mozilla to turn this on without any respect for those users’ preferences was a huge mistake that they keep making over and over again.

More specifically: they chose Firebox because it doesn't have those kind of features. If the just wanted a (sorta-kinda) open-source browser filled with all the latest hype features they would've simply used Chromium.

Using Firefox is a political choice. People use it because it's one of the few remaining traditional browsers which isn't a tentacle of Big Tech. Chasing the competition and adding the stuff your users are actively trying to avoid isn't going to work.


> If the just wanted a (sorta-kinda) open-source browser filled with all the latest hype features they would've simply used Chromium.

I don't mind features existing, especially if I can switch them off if I don't want them. I definitely mind Chrom(ium|e).

I don't see how the existence of the Firefox AI sidebar gives Google effective control over web specs.


The main reason for using Firefox is because they support Manifest v2 / Ad-Blockers.

This increases security while also harming Google's business model. Win-Win.


This attitude is exactly why Mozilla is failing. Total contempt and ignorance of the users that are the core of Firefox’s user base. If someone doesn’t want to use AI features, that’s not “living in a fantasy world”. And if Mozilla had any respect for its users, they would have realized the need to make this sort of thing a first class setting. Pretending that their core users are delusional freaks who only deserve “niche” settings is exactly why they are rapidly losing that audience.

You're missing the point. If someone doesn't want to use AI features, they can just NOT. USE. THEM. That's it. Just don't press the AI button. Is it that hard? Would you say Mozilla is deleting all your data because there's a "Delete cookies and history" button in the menu? You can just NOT. PRESS. THE. BUTTON.

The master AI switch doesn't actually change whether the browser uses AI features - it never does unless you specifically run them. What it does is hides them from the user, pretending they don't exist.

Browsers that don't respect their users' choices about using AI do things like automatically download large models in the background, integrate cloud-based speech recognition and synthesis as an API available to any website and make the default search engine which they also own show LLM slop above actual results.


It’s because they are themselves deluded by their marketing story about their own product.

The more important question in both cases is where the water comes from.

And how it affects the local area.

It makes her arguments highly suspect, yes.

You can also argue the opposite, that due to her working with a particular interest in proving the organic industry wrong, she is finding factual information about it. As usual, information should be dismissed or confirmed with more information, not with fallacies

OTOH this stuff has already been refuted and pesticide makers lobbying like this, spreading FUD on organic food, is a well known pattern already.

We can't afford properly refuting each occurrence, the effort is highly asymmetrical.


Refuted where? Be specific.

The principle of charity suggests we should assume good intentions about others and their ideas, and give them the benefit of the doubt before criticising them.

https://ethics.org.au/ethics-explainer-the-principle-of-char...


Seems like a great way to get conned. I'll pass.

2024. I don’t think “our food is safer than ever before” is true anymore in the United States.

In non-Organic produce, we literally use sewage mulch as a fertilizer which is PFAS and toxin ridden. It doesn't get much more poisonous than this.

But not all projects can be low stakes. None of the important ones are.

The thing about AI-generated “solutions” is that they often go down bad rabbit holes and need to be re-run, or since they are so “cheap” to create they are often just thrown away and rebuilt when requirements evolve. Plus, just more stuff is created and needs to be maintained. So in the end, your efficiency gains go out the window.

In the US, over and above salary, payroll taxes add 7.65%, pension contributions might be up to 5%, and employer healthcare and other insurance contributions can be in the thousands, plus other benefits, equity compensation, and per-employee software licensing, and lots of people just estimate 2x salary as the “total cost” of an employee, although that probably overstates it a bit.

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